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within 48 hours. >> speaker john boehner voted for the deal, breaking the republican leaders eric cantor of virginia and kevin mccarthy of california who voted against. paul ryan joined speaker boehner, voting for the bill. after the vote, president obama tried to set the terms for the fiscal fights ahead in a rare late-night appearance with joe biden by his side in the briefing room. >> the one thing that i think hopefully in the new year we'll focus on is seeing if we can put a package like this together, with a little bit less drama, a little less brinksmanship, not scare the heck out of folks quite as much. >> but republicans are already looking ahead to another budget showdown in late february. that's when the temporary delay on domestic and military spending cuts expires and when congress must raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling limit to avoid default. >> save your powder for the debt ceiling fight. we have leverage at the debt ceiling to make this president face up to the fact that we're spending our way into oblivion. >> last night, the president warned republicans not to use t
happen? >> eric cantor had promised a vote on the aid package before the lame duck session ended. >> the motion is adopted without objection to reconsider is laid on the table. >> reporter: but sources tell cnn right after the toxic fiscal cliff vote the house speak joern cliff vote the house speak joe n janua yanked the bill. >> reporter: the reason? cnn told the speaker he worried it was bad internal politics for him to allow a vote on $60 million after a long day of getting pommelled for spending. >> on a political chest board of politics our people were played last night as a pawn. >> i called the speaker four times last night after 11:20 and he did not take my calls. it is why the american people hate congress. it's why they hate them. >> reporter: and this meeting that just wrapped up really lasted a short time, maybe 20 minutes tops, wolf. it was clear that the house speaker knew he had to clean it up and clean it up fast and he had a plan ready to go to take the votes to reassure the republicans that were devastated by sandy. >> do you have doubt john boehner will be the
of the leadership of his party who voted in favor of the bill. eric cantor and kevin mccarthy joined the majority of their party in voting no. boehner did find support from one key republican, paul ryan of wisconsin also voted yes. the main sticking point for republicans, a lack of spending cuts. hours before last night's votes, republicans considered trying to amend the bill from the senate and add additional spending cuts in. the senate made it clear they had no intention of revisiting this idea. so if changes were made that would essentially kill it. before the vote, republicans took to the floor and voiced their concerns. >> there are no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate failed in cutting spending. >> i thought we were in a deficit crisis. i thought families were put at risk by this massive debt. what does this do about that? >> it was way past those senators bedtimes, they were blurry eyed when they were reading it we are trying to fill in the gap for where they missed a few things. >> i think it's unreasonable for senator reid to say something they produce
yes. you had eric cantor voting no. is there a split as charles talking about here on the panel developing inside of the republican party that is being used and possibly taken advantage of by democrats including the white house? >> well, i will say something that is simplest thing to say is that charles is right. and that is a freebie. but it is not right as it relates to or it doesn't apply to not april politicable relating to boehner and cantor this, is a cal clue coup laigs. inside of the caucus that boehner is the, taking it, he says i brought the deal so i'm going to vote for it. ryan who is a pragmatist is saying i am the budget committee chairman. then, they're letting the other guys off the hook. if you look how small number of people is, that is voting in favor, how small the number of republicans voting in favor of this is, they're letting just about everybody off the hook. they're taking it and they're hoping that as few a number of human beings is watching this, as is possible. and that they will let this pass on into the night. that it will be done. and that is what
to this stuff. but i see what he's saying. his deputies, eric cantor, mccarthy, were both there when plan b was introduced and failed to be introduced. so the logical successors weren't there. >> so paul ryan is the person who has the support of the house of speakers. those who don't like boehner, don't love boehner, they love paul ryan. he was whipping plan b. so paul ryan, probably the most high-profile guy who could be a consensus candidate getz boehner. he's not running against barren. he's not even interesting. >> if the president get this through, and it i know it's a big if -- he has to know goes yags. >> you're always going to have to include john boehner. he's speaker of the house. i think you're making a fair point that the power of house republicans to drive the debate is being underquestioned right now. people are going to look to this experience as to how john bane err may or may not be able to drive this discussion. >> sam, on this kind of deal, there's always last-minute horse trading. things get thrown on the paper and the base finds out and gets upset. what gets him upset w
leadership was in favor. then we got a clue early today from eric cantor that he didn't like the bill. he in the end did not vote in favor of it. he voted nay. >> correct. he voted no and another member of the leadership, kevin mccarthy, the whip, he also voted know. so they were split inside the leadership. i think the big issue today wasn't necessarily within the republican leadership. it wasn't so much as split there. it was a lot of concern and discontent among all of the rank and file republicans that they were put in a position where they had to vote for something. they had to look at it fast. they didn't love this compromise and the house republicans, as we know well, are not used to voting on something that they don't see as pure and so it took a little while as a republican source earlier said to me for them to wind themselves up this morning and then slowly to wind themselves back down and accept reality, which is what we just saw. >> no one there owes themselves any congratulations. this took place 518 days after we first learned this fiscal cliff would take place. this was an
. then we got a clue early today from eric cantor that he didn't like the bill. he in the end did not vote in favor of it. he voted nay. >> correct. he voted no and another member of the leadership, kevin mccarthy, the whip, he also voted know. so they were split inside the leadership. i think the big issue today wasn't necessarily within the republican leadership. it wasn't so much as split there. it was a lot of concern and discontent among all of the rank and file republicans that they were put in a position where they had to vote for something. they had to look at it fast. they didn't love this compromise and the house republicans, as we know well, are not used to voting on something that they don't see as pure and so it took a little while as a republican source earlier said to me for them to wind themselves up this morning and then slowly to wind themselves back down and accept reality, which is what we just saw. >> no one there owes themselves any congratulations. this took place 518 days after we first learned this fiscal cliff would take place. this was an embarrassing moment for
to speaker john boehner, majority leader eric cantor, maturity with kevin mccarthy. it's not for this class of 87 freshman, class of 2010 he would be minority leader boehner. these guys came and not beholden by any means to leadership and made it clear from the outset that they were not going to be told to fall into line. the real problem for this republican leadership, but to prove to be the case if ever the democrats regain power is the enforcement tools of yesteryear aren't needed of yesteryear, since earmarks have now been banned, since if the blogosphere you can turn someone into an instant martyr by stripping them of their committee assignments. it's very, very hard to use a stick in addition to a kerry. there's a point in my book i refer to after the debt ceiling fiasco of the summer of 2011 when they come back in another resolution to fund the carpet because the obama administration hadn't passed a budget was coming up. the republican leadership of the ticket and easy vote and in fact the members voted against it. the appropriations committee, which designs continue dissolutions and
and will do it. a lot of people looked at that and said is there a rift, is this eric cantor positioning himself for a coup. i think that's fairly unlikely. the house speaker boehner certainly has plenty of support going into his election tomorrow where he's expected to be reelected the speaker of the house when the 113th congress convenes. so i think folks are reading a little into that. but certainly it was eric cantor being a little who are conservatives. >> many are very angry about this deal. we saw this tweet from the tea party expression, amy cramer said i'm disgusted with what happened in the house last night. there will be consequences. what will the blow back be, do you think? >> in the short term, i don't think there's much at all. and certainly many folks believe that the tea party may be losing steam if anything under this new deal. but remember, as brianna pointed out, we'll be back here again in march. you have the debt limit, the government maxed out its credit card december 31st. treasury is now taking extraordinary measures for the government to pay its bills. you have
, republican leadership was in favor. then we got a clue early today from eric cantor that he didn't like the bill. he in the end did not vote in favor of it. he voted nay. >> correct. he voted no and another member of the leadership, krevin mccarthy, the whip, he also voted know. so they were split inside the leadership. i think the big issue today wasn't necessarily within the republican leadership. it wasn't so much as split there. it was a lot of concern and discontent among all of the rank and file republicans that they were put in a position where they had to vote for something. they had to look at it fast. they didn't love this compromise and the house republicans, as we know well, are not used to voting on something that they don't see as pure and so it took a little while as a republican source earlier said to me for them to wind themselves up this morning and then slowly to wind themselves back down and accept reality, which is what we just saw. >> no one there owes themselves any congratulations. this took place 518 days after we first learned this fiscal cliff would take place
leader eric cantor acted up and acted as spokesman for the farther right wing of the caucus, but i think here there's not a lot of suggestions that his speakership could go down but i think it is important for john boehner to reestablish the idea he is somewhat in control of his membership and that they trust him and that he is the leader here. he sort of allowed the senate to take over here really sort of gave up in some ways a few days ago and said, hey. you guys come up with something and bring it back to us. so i think there is a lot of pressure and there is going to be a lot of calling, cajoling, and making sure that this thing is going to get the votes, at least enough of a combination of democrat and republican votes later today. >> jill, this has been billed as a compromise. what did each side get and have to give with this bill and can either side claim victory here? >> well, i think both sides can claim victory but also both sides lost on certain respects. president obama obviously for five, six years he's been talking about this $250,000 income threshold and he did lose on tha
clear throughout the 112 congress. eric cantor the majority leader is a bit different, somewhat younger than boehner, a very clever guy, very very ambitious. he has his own channel to the obama white house as he and vice president biden are very close and i think they found they need each other i believe it was biden and this would not surprise any of you that was leaking to eric cantor that speaker boehner was pursuing separate talks with obama during the so-called -- in which eric cantor was a part. this may cantor livid and he walked out of those talks because of the dynamics going on with boehner. does this sound childish to you? >> the question i'm going to ask is that eric cantor walked past john boehner leaving out an open window -- window he would not hesitate to push him with a? >> for one 11 thing boehner is an even tempered so is boehner. unless the moment is absolutely right you tend not to be able to get ahead by declaring. >> the there is a -- between cancer and boehner. >> working more or less in the middle is the majority whip kevin mccarthy. mccarthy has, he has only
and file guy and john boehner said, hey, i need you. you can go back and say, yeah, but eric cantor didn't vote what you needed him on, why do you need me? it's going to be interesting to see how it moves forward, and i think boehner needs to draw a hard line against president obama, because he needs to assert his leadership here in a big, powerful way. >> i want to talk to you in a moment about sandy, but first to kelly, because they failed to do anything on the relief for sandy victims. kelly, what does it say about this congress as at noon today went out of power, the congress has gone or noon tomorrow, rather, goes out of power. the congress is gone, it's over, it's the worst on record, and now they didn't do anything for the relief of the real victims of hurricane sandy. >> this is so politically damaging, because the expectation was that the house would act. the senate did, they put together a package worth $60.4 billion. there had been a lot of foot dragging, i think the term from democrats who wanted more faster, given how long ago sandy hit. what hurts politically, in the latest
notice how eric cantor, the house majority leader voted on the fiscal cliff deal last night. he voted against it. some have interpreted that to be premonition, an indication perhaps there will be some sort of a challenge to the speakership of john boehner. however we have heard nobody speak publicly, nobody speak on the record in that regard. keep in mind if his speakership were to be challenged would require a vote not just of the republican conference but the entire house of representatives. jenna: big question whether or not a change in leadership would elicit different results that is conversation yet to be had in the coming weeks. >> so you try. jenna: doug, thank you very much. jon: so the white house and congress knew of the self-imposed deadline for more than 17 months and they still managed to blow past it. finally approving a tax deal last night that doesn't seriously address the spending cuts or the nation's ballooning deficit. so who wins and who loses with this deal? talk about it with jonah gold perg, editor-at-large at "the national review" and a fox news contributor. b
minute. eric cantor did. stan hoyer among others not happy. >> i am deeply disappointed mr. speaker, and the people who have been damaged by hurricane sandy, including governor chris christie and governor cuomo, should be deeply disappointed and yes, angry, that this congress would adjourn without addressing the pain of our fellow citizens. >> bill: it is outrageous -- i have not been there personally but seen so much video of the horrific destruction in parts of new york and new jersey -- >> that is still there, yeah. >> bill: yeah, people still suffering, and the congress just basically saying, we don't care about this. >> yeah, it's just the house, right? because the senate had actually done some stuff, and had planned to come back one more day and deal with what the house passed and in the midst of all of this stuff at the last minute they just pulled it off of the agenda. and it was a bipartisan anger at the house leadership last night when that happened. >> bill: eleanor holmes norton representing the district of columbia will be joining us in studio abou
consensus. and at the 11th hour, you have eric cantor and kevin mccarthy, the number two and three in the house republican caucus breaking away. but who stands up and stands with boehner? it's ryan. it's ryan, the budget committee chairman. he could have done a lot to come back from the campaign trail and really try to assert himself against boehner. he didn't do that. he was boehner's ally. >> why? >> that really helped boehner at the end. why? because i think ryan long term is just like camp dadave camp. they're talking about the long-term tax reform is going to come on the debt ceiling in 2013 with the budget fight. you're so right on the debt part. but what they want to do now is lock in the rates. that was their argument in the caucus meeting last night. that was their argument on the floor. lock in the bush era rates, do what you can and move on. >> why did they break away from john boehner at the last moment other than it made a hell of a lot of good sense if you're actually conservative ideologically, you don't believe in adding $4 trillion to the national debt? >> i that i
on the house side. speaker boehner voting for the bill. and eric cantor voting against the bill. the house whip voting against the bill and paul ryan voting for the bill. this is a real split. >> it is. it shows the schism and a real good demonstration of why it was so difficult for speaker boehner to negotiate a bigger, grander deal with the president. he was unable to get his own deal through the house a few weeks ago, and the negotiated deal that passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. 89 votes in the senate, didn't get the majority of the republicans in the house to sign on. what you are seeing is the difficulty played out for everyone to see of how difficulty it is for speaker boehner to get these kinds of bills passed through the house. >> quickly, given the schism that you outlined, this is the last day of the 112th congress and tomorrow is the big day for john boehner. how is it looking for them? >> i think it looks fine for him. a lot of grumbling among folks. he allowed everyone to vote their conscious. no one got forced into voting for something they didn't want to. we avoided t
chairman paul ryan did vote in favor of the bill while eric cantor and congressman mccarthy voted against it. responding quite positively to that news, doug responding less positively. the dow jones up 180 and nasdaq up 50 points and s&p 24 points and ftse up 500 points -- not 500 points. and you can see the ftse up 2% on this news and look at what happened there in asia. hang seng up almost 3%. one clarification, i think i may have misspoken when i said all of this lasting one year. what i was describing was extension of unemployment benefits, that lasts one year. these other taxes and cuts and increases are now permanent. >> the fiscal cliff a verdict for now. now, we can look forward to something with the debt ceiling in the next two months. joining us in washington is former oklahoma governor frank keating and ceo of the american bankers association. joining us from philadelphia, former pennsylvania governor, ed rendell, also a cnbc contributor. i have to tell that joke again, governor. what do you call 47 millionaires sitting around watching the super bowl? >> i give up. >> the phila
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